>>How much control do you actually have in this program? > >Well..perhaps Chris is more able to answer that... Oh, I doubt that. :-) How long is a piece of string? >The PDF is pretty good in explaining all the details, but experimentation is >the Key to this program! Yes, that's absolutely true. My process for coming up with my initial material for a new piece is to randomise all the parameters on a track, then just run it over and over to see what happens. If you don't like what it's producing, just hit the space bar. This interrupts and discards what it's just done, re-randomises the parameters and starts 'fractating' from the top. Once you get something you feel you can work with, keep the results and de-randomise the track and you've got your starting material. From there, an approach that can often produce interesting results is to copy the parameters to another track then just tweak one of them slightly (or less slightly if you prefer) and you should get a variation on the original. If you change nothing but the pitch expansion parameter, you'll get exact rhythmic unison with the first track, but different notes - more or less widely spread, as the parameter's name suggests. I know it may be a bit heavy going, but it really is worth ploughing through Chapter 5 in the PDF (pp 41-48) to get a handle on what's actually going on in there. Oh, and I meant to say this about the PDF - sorry the contents are a bit out of whack. This is the first PDF I've made from PageMaker, using the automatic Table of Contents feature, which is based on paragraph styles. The result is that there are more entries in the table than there should be! Just ignore those blank ones - the others do work. Similarly, through my own inexperience at doing this, not all the references in the index are hyperlinked as they should be. I hope this doesn't inconvenience you too much! Whatever - have fun. -- Cheers ... Chris